Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet by Julian Assange Jacob Appelbaum Andy Muller-Maguhn Jeremie Zimmermann
Author:Julian Assange, Jacob Appelbaum, Andy Muller-Maguhn, Jeremie Zimmermann
Language: fr
Format: mobi, epub, pdf
Tags: Bisac Code 1: POL039000
ISBN: 9781939293015
Publisher: OR Books
Published: 2012-11-25T23:00:00+00:00
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JULIAN: Jake, can you speak a little bit about the detainment that you’ve had at US airports, and why that has occurred?
JACOB: They’ve asserted that it occurs because “I know why.”
JULIAN: But they don’t say?
ANDY: Can I try to summarize it, because technical security and the security of governmental affairs are two things that are totally detached. You can have a totally secure technical system and the government will think it’s no good, because they think security is when they can look into it, when they can control it, when they can breach the technical security. This was not about Jake trying to approach planes, to kill anybody, to hijack the plane or whatever. This was about his ability to affect governmental affairs by travelling to other countries, speaking to people, and spreading ideas. That is the most dangerous thing that happens to governments these days—when people have better ideas than what their policy is.
JACOB: I totally appreciate you complimenting me there in that statement, but I would just like to point out that this is way worse than that, because this is the data they collect on everyone. This was before I did anything interesting at all; it was merely the fact that I was travelling and the systems themselves, the architecture, promoted this information collection. This is before I was ever stopped for anything, it was before I was deported from Lebanon, it was before the US government took a special interest in me.
ANDY: Maybe they forecast it, maybe they saw it earlier than you did.
JACOB: Of course they did, partially because of collecting this data. But they always give me different answers. Usually they say one response, which is, uniformly across the board, “Because we can.” And I say, “Ok, I do not dispute your authority—well, I do dispute your authority, I do not dispute it now—I merely wish to know why this is happening to me.” Now people tell me all the time, “Well, isn’t it obvious? You work on Tor,” or, “You’re sitting next to Julian, what did you expect?” It’s fascinating to me because each of the different people that are holding me—usually from the Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the United States—will tell me it is because they have the authority to do so more than anything else. I’ve also had them tell me bullshit like, “Oh, remember 9/11? That’s why,” or, “Because we want you to answer some questions and this is the place you have the least amount of rights, or so we assert.”
And in this situation they’ll deny access to a lawyer, they’ll deny access to a bathroom but they’ll give you water, they will give you something to drink, like a diuretic, in order to convince you that you really want to co-operate in some way. They did this to pressure, for political reasons. They asked me questions about how I feel about the Iraq War, how I feel about the Afghan War. Basically,
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